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EP85 Conversation Hour 02 - Jay Haley, M.A. & Cloe Madanes


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Topic Areas:
Conversation Hours |  Psychotherapy |  Brief Therapy |  Family Therapy |  Therapeutic Process
Categories:
Evolution of Psychotherapy |  Evolution of Psychotherapy 1985
Faculty:
Jay Haley, MA |  Cloe Madanes, HDL, LIC
Duration:
51 Minutes
Format:
Audio Only
Original Program Date:
Dec 11, 1985
License:
Never Expires.



Description

Description:

Educational Objectives:

  1. To learn philosophies to various practitioners and theorists.

*Sessions may be edited for content and to preserve confidentiality*

Outline:

 

  • Event Overview

    • Jay Haley and Chloe Madanes host a conversation at the Evolution of Psychotherapy conference.

    • They co-direct a family therapy institute with a clinic and training program.

    • Emphasize designing therapy for each case and including the whole family when possible.

  • Living and Working Together

    • Discuss the joys and challenges of working as a couple.

    • Storytelling is a key skill in therapy; trainees are encouraged to use relevant stories in sessions.

  • "Prescribing the Metaphor" Strategy

    • Clients create metaphorical stories that contain the solutions to their problems.

    • Example: An older couple resolved marital issues by writing essays that reflected their dynamics.

  • Process-Oriented vs. Problem-Centered Therapy

    • Therapy can focus on curing symptoms or supporting personal growth.

    • Understanding the function of a symptom helps tailor interventions more effectively.

  • Medication in Therapy

    • Critical of over-reliance on medication and its long-term effects.

    • Prefer non-drug interventions and honor clients' decisions about medication.

    • Emphasize apologizing when therapeutic strategies fall short.

  • Working with Illness and Psychiatry

    • Therapy helps families cope with chronic and terminal illnesses.

    • Psychiatric clients without family support present unique challenges.

    • Recommends reorganizing family roles to support recovery when possible.

  • Training Therapists

    • Teaching involves guiding trainees to select appropriate techniques based on problem type.

    • Directive therapy favored; discourages emotional catharsis and deep interpretation.

    • Emphasizes consistency and practical guidance.

  • Schizophrenia and Family Involvement

    • Seen as a behavioral issue rather than strictly medical.

    • Strong support for involving parents in taking responsibility for the client.

    • Criticize lack of consensus in the field and overly medicalized approaches.

  • Grief and Forgiveness

    • Focus on constructive actions and adjusting expectations, rather than resolving old wounds.

    • Use compromise and acceptance to reduce emotional burdens.

  • Trauma and Amnesia

    • Discuss therapeutic uses of amnesia via hypnosis or recall fatigue.

    • Focus on the present function of traumatic memories.

    • Introduce “mitzvah therapy”—anonymous good deeds to resolve guilt.

  • Teaching vs. Structural Change

    • Some clients improve more through structural family changes than through education.

    • Organizational shifts can lead to better parenting without formal instruction.

  • Core Therapy Principles

    • Distinguish therapy from everyday life by targeting real behavior change.

    • Key values: optimism, humor, respect, and belief in clients’ capacity to protect and support one another.

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Faculty

Jay Haley, MA's Profile

Jay Haley, MA Related Seminars and Products


Jay Haley (M.A., 1953, Stanford University) was Director of Family Therapy Institute of Washington, D.C. He was one of the leading exponents of the strategic/interpersonal approach to family therapy. Haley served as Director of the Family Experiment Project at the Mental Research Institute and as Director of Family Therapy Research at the Philadelphia Child Guidance Clinic. He has authoered seven books, co-authored two and edited five. Additionally, he has more than 40 contributions to professional journals and books. Haley is the former editor of Family Process, and the first recipient of the Lifetime Achievement Award of The Milton H. Erickson Foundation.


Cloe Madanes, HDL, LIC's Profile

Cloe Madanes, HDL, LIC Related Seminars and Products


Cloé Madanes, HDL, LIC, is a world-renowned innovator and teacher of family and strategic therapy and one of the originators of the strategic approach to family therapy. She has authored seven books that are classics in the field: Strategic Family Therapy; Behind the One-Way Mirror; Sex, Love and Violence; The Violence of Men; The Secret Meaning of Money; The Therapist as Humanist, Social Activist and Systemic Thinker; and Relationship Breakthrough. She has presented her work at professional conferences all over the world and has given keynote addresses for The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference, the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapy; the National Association of Social Workers, The Erickson Foundation, the California Psychological Association and many other national and international conferences. Madanes has won several awards for distinguished contribution to psychology and has counseled outstanding individuals from all walks of life.


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