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CC05 Panel 02 - Attachment and Differentiation in Couples Therapy - Ellyn Bader, PhD and Sue Johnson, EdD


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Topic Areas:
Topical Panels |  Attachment |  Couples Therapy |  Differentiation |  Behavioral Psychology |  Communication |  Developmental Psychology |  Psychoanalysis
Categories:
Couples Conference |  Couples Conference 2005
Faculty:
Ellyn Bader, PhD |  Sue Johnson, EdD
Duration:
1:05:52
Format:
Audio Only
Original Program Date:
Mar 05, 2005
License:
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Description

Description:

Educational Objectives:

  1. To compare and contrast clinical and philosophical perspectives of experts.

*Sessions may be edited for content and to preserve confidentiality*

 

Outline

Introduction to Attachment & Differentiation

  • Panel opens with the importance of understanding both concepts in couples therapy.
  • Discussion of the tension between the desire for closeness (attachment) and the need for individuality (differentiation).
  • Mentions using session transcripts to demonstrate these dynamics.
  • References perspectives from Bowen and David Schnarch.

Defining Differentiation

  • Bowen: Differentiation = separating emotional and intellectual systems.
  • Expanded definition: active process of self-definition, boundary-setting, and anxiety management.
  • Differentiation distinguished from individuation—differentiation is relational.
  • Clarifies confusion around terms like fusion, symbiosis, and differentiation.

Attachment Theory & Relationship Impact

  • Attachment is biologically wired and essential for emotional growth.
  • Falling in love seen as a "temporary psychosis" that can confuse differentiation with rejection.
  • Study cited: rejection behaviors are consistent across cultures.

Teaching Differentiation: Challenges & Approaches

  • Teaching differentiation is tough due to cultural misconceptions.
  • Case examples shared: clients learning to assert needs and manage fears.
  • Emotional experiences are essential for teaching differentiation.
  • Discussion of societal fears around connection and emotional intimacy.

Case Examples in Therapy

  • Couple case: chronic anger and separation rooted in poor differentiation.
  • Emphasis on helping partners express differences without blame.
  • Additional examples of clients building assertiveness.

Secure Attachment as Foundation for Differentiation

  • Secure attachment enables partners to tolerate emotional risks and grow.
  • Personal story: secure base helped a partner pursue differentiation.
  • A secure bond allows for "differentiated differentiation."

Emotional Regulation’s Role

  • Affect regulation is key to differentiation and healthy emotional engagement.
  • Personal example: direct, caring communication fosters security.
  • Emotions must be integrated into relationship work, not avoided.

The Therapist’s Role

  • Can therapists facilitate secure attachment if they struggle personally?
  • Panel agrees: therapists can grow and model security, learning from clients.
  • Example: client with no secure past bonds found connection in therapy.

Balancing Connection & Differentiation

  • Connection aims to deepen relational bonds while supporting individual growth.
  • Debate: should therapy focus on connection or differentiation?
  • Consensus: healthy relationships require both.

Conclusion & Final Reflections

  • Panel aligns on the shared goal of strengthening connection while building differentiation.
  • Closing stories of clients achieving connection despite defenses.
  • Emphasis: a strong therapeutic bond is essential to support differentiation.

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Faculty

Ellyn Bader, PhD's Profile

Ellyn Bader, PhD Related Seminars and Products


Ellyn Bader, PhD, is a founder and director of The Couples Institute in Menlo Park, California. As a clinical psychologist, workshop leader, author, and speaker, she is dedicated to helping couples create extraordinary relationships. Over the past 30 years she has trained therapists in couples therapy throughout the United States as well as Europe, Asia, South America, and Australia. She served as a Clinical Faculty in Stanford University School of Medicine for 8 years.


Sue Johnson, EdD's Profile

Sue Johnson, EdD Related Seminars and Products


Dr. Sue Johnson is an author, clinical psychologist, researcher, professor, popular presenter and speaker and a leading innovator in the field of couple therapy and adult attachment. Sue is the primary developer of Emotionally Focused Couples and Family Therapy (EFT), which has demonstrated its effectiveness in over 30 years of peer-reviewed clinical research.

Sue Johnson is founding Director of the International Centre for Excellence in Emotionally Focused Therapy and Distinguished Research Professor at Alliant University in San Diego, California, as well as Professor Emeritus, Clinical Psychology, at the University of Ottawa, Canada.


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