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CC13 Topical Panel 01 - Infidelity - Ellyn Bader, PhD; Janis Abrahms Spring, PhD; Michele Weiner-Davis, MSW, LCSW


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Topic Areas:
Infidelity |  Topical Panels |  Couples Therapy |  Clinical Psychology |  Humanistic Therapy |  Psychoanalysis |  Relationships |  Trauma
Categories:
Couples Conference |  Couples Conference 2013
Faculty:
Ellyn Bader, PhD |  Janis Abrahms Spring, PhD, ABPP |  Michele Weiner-Davis, LCSW
Duration:
1:01:24
Format:
Audio Only
Original Program Date:
Apr 20, 2013
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Description

Description:

Educational Objectives:

  1. Compare and contrast clinical philosophical perspectives of experts.   

*Sessions may be edited for content and to preserve confidentiality*

 

Outline 

Panel Introduction

  • Panelists: Ellen Bader, Janice Abrahms Springs, Michelle Wiener Davis.
  • Topic: Helping couples and individuals navigate affairs and infidelity.
  • Format: Position statements → Dialogue → Audience Q&A.

Janice Abrams Springs – Key Points

  • 37 years of experience with infidelity cases.
  • Warns against unrealistic marriage expectations ("catastrophic dullness" is normal).
  • Shared a story about premarital therapy misconceptions.
  • Stresses the need to create a vision for life post-affair and prep couples for emotional ups and downs.

Ellen Bader – Key Points

  • Affairs are nuanced; the internal world of the unfaithful partner matters.
  • Distinction: Affair = physical/sexual | Infidelity = breach of trust/loyalty.
  • Highlights complexity when couples want to divorce after infidelity.
  • Quotes a client: "The affair was like looking at a bright light in the darkness" (illustrating internal conflict).

Michelle Wiener Davis – Key Points

  • Specializes in couples "on the brink," often due to infidelity.
  • Metaphor: Healing from infidelity like a bone healing stronger after breaking—requires hard work.
  • Therapists should maintain hope and normalize the rocky healing process.
  • Notes: Despite cultural shifts, many clients are still in the initial shock phase.

Open Secrets Policy & Managing Disclosures

  • Janice: Supports an "open secrets" policy—transparent agreements on what is shared.
  • Michelle: Gives couples the option—openness or confidentiality.
  • Pros/cons of full disclosure vs. keeping secrets are debated.
  • Important: Therapists create a safe, structured space.

Affair Disclosures & Individual Sessions

  • Strategies when one partner confides in the therapist about an affair.
  • Janice: Use individual sessions to process ambivalence before disclosing.
  • Michelle: Helps clients explore their integrity and decide—example of a woman ending an affair for self-respect.
  • Therapist’s role: Support honest decision-making and anticipate fallout.

Infidelity Complexities & Therapeutic Approaches

  • Discussion touches on biological/evolutionary reasons for affairs.
  • Both clinicians emphasize focusing on individual values, integrity, and consequences.
  • Therapists must manage secrets carefully and provide structure.

Dealing with Violence

  • Jill shares an experience with a violent client reaction.
  • Emphasis on:
    • Recognizing red flags.
    • Having a de-escalation and safety plan ready.
    • Ensuring all parties remain safe.

Ongoing Affairs During Couples Therapy

  • How to proceed when an affair is still active:
    • Janice: Use individual sessions to explore motivations and options.
    • Michelle: Focus on integrity and long-term consequences.
  • Goal: Help partners face the emotional impact and decide on next steps.

Final Thoughts & Audience Q&A

  • Repeated emphasis on:
    • Honoring each partner’s feelings.
    • Tailoring the approach to the couple's unique situation.
    • Balancing honesty, safety, and integrity.
  • Final takeaway: Infidelity is complex—therapists guide healing without one-size-fits-all answers.

Credits



Faculty

Ellyn Bader, PhD's Profile

Ellyn Bader, PhD Related Seminars and Products


Ellyn Bader, PhD, is a founder and director of The Couples Institute in Menlo Park, California. As a clinical psychologist, workshop leader, author, and speaker, she is dedicated to helping couples create extraordinary relationships. Over the past 30 years she has trained therapists in couples therapy throughout the United States as well as Europe, Asia, South America, and Australia. She served as a Clinical Faculty in Stanford University School of Medicine for 8 years.


Janis Abrahms Spring, PhD, ABPP's Profile

Janis Abrahms Spring, PhD, ABPP Related Seminars and Products


Janis Abrahms Spring, Ph.D., ABPP, is a board certified clinical psychologist and nationally acclaimed expert on issues of trust, intimacy, and forgiveness. Her first book, After the Affair: Healing the Pain and Rebuilding Trust When a Partner Has Been Unfaithful, has sold more than a half million copies and was a Books for a Better Life Award finalist in the categories of Best First Book and Best Relationship Book. The completely updated second edition (2012) includes a new chapter on affairs in cyberspace. How Can I Forgive You? The Courage to Forgive, the Freedom Not To, was a Books for a Better Life Award finalist in the category of Best Psychology Book. Life with Pop: Lessons on Caring for an Aging Parent, a Living Well Award Silver Medalist, captures the extraordinary, ordinary personal challenges and moments of grace that come with caregiving and growing old.


Michele Weiner-Davis, LCSW's Profile

Michele Weiner-Davis, LCSW Related Seminars and Products


Michele Weiner-Davis, LCSW is the Founder of The Divorce Busting Center in Boulder, Colorado. She is a popular TEDx speaker and the author of eight books including, Healing From Infidelity, and the bestselling Divorce Busting and The Sex-Starved Marriage. She is the recipient of several prestigious awards including the Outstanding Contribution to Marriage and Family Therapy Award from AAMFT. 


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